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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  What is the origin of the myth?

  After the death of Jesus’ apostles, by the beginning of the second century C.E., the early Church Fathers gained prominence. Describing their teachings, the New Catholic Encyclopedia (2003), Volume 6, page 687, says: “The general stream of teaching was that heavenly bliss is granted to the disembodied soul immediately after whatever necessary purification follows death.”

  5 “Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth.

  10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”
  

  If everyone goes to heaven, why do the 144000 need to act as kings and priests and rule over Earth? No one would be there!
  
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  You said spiritual creatures that weren't angels. The Bible says nothing of the sort living in heaven.
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  The Bible flat out says 144000 brought from earth. Do you really think everyone will be?

  3 And they are singing what seems to be a new song+ before the throne and before the four living creatures+ and the elders,+ and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000,+ who have been bought from the earth.
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  The Bible says those who don't pass it go to the second death of course. So who do will be like the angles in that they will never die.

  What you are saying about them being spiritual creatures but not angels...what religion teaches this? It seems like you made it up.

  What I am saying is that even if the great crowd are the 144000 what does it matter? BOTH will make it pass the great tribulation.
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  1. jw
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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  Also Sanchy we don't believe in two resurrections just one on earth.
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  Sparky Maybe he didn't who knows but he did order for those back then to do it.

  11 “Into whatever city or village you enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until you leave. 12 When you enter the house, greet the household. 13 If the house is deserving, let the peace you wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from you return upon you.
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  Maybe the WT does have it wrong about who the term great crowd is being referred to in this scripture. But the Bible still gives a number of how many it is that goes to heaven. Does it make JW evil if they have it wrong?

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  and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God's children, since they are children of the resurrection.

  
  

  The scripture you pointed out reads they are like angles because the resurrected are now undieing. If they go to heaven why doesn't it just say they are now angels?
  
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102002073

  I read about the great crowd from here.
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  2. friends

  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  The Bible doesn't say humans will be resurrected to heaven. It just says thier will be a resurrection. The scripture says blood and flesh can't inherit the kingdom of the heaven. The Bible also talks of what paradise on earth would be like just look at the scripture I gave you. It also says no one will be sick. Thiers another that says God created earth to be inhabited. Why would he go back on this?
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer

  I see now. The teaching is that the 140000 are of the great crowd. So either way they are both the great crowd. Jesus says he will rescue both so I don't see the issue.